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Postby NexusHeli » Thu May 11, 2006 1:41 am

I just had my hands on 2007 Campy Prototypes. Unfortunately with the Rep present, photos were not an option. Here's what I can tell you from what I can remember:

ID of the BB spindle at the crank arm is a massive 25mm. This tapers internally through the Bearing and externally after the bearing (inside the shell so to speak. I couldn't get an idea of the diameter of spindle further down (my ring didn't compare to anything...) The interface in the center has 20 teeth aprox. 5mm deep on each side of the spindle that mesh much like two gears. A hollow alloy bolt holds the two sides together at 42Nm. I unfortunately didn't have a magnet handy so I can't tell you if the spindle with alloy or something else. The cups are seperate from the bearing and are sold seperately from the crank. The cups are the same through the range from Xenon to Record.

The Record cranks have been narrowed and made flat in order to keep the Q-factor the same as the current crank/bb set up. They're about 10mm thick at the edges, a small bulge down the center but otherwise flat and hollow. The most noticable part is that they're close to 50mm wide! The explaination given was that whatever is placed inside the crank before curing the carbon is then sucked out through a small hole in the back side of the crank (this is then covered by some sort of sticker on the prototype, I don't know how the production model will be).

Chorus cranks are nearly identical to Record, however won't be hollow. Centaur and down go to a forged alloy arm with a concave backside, in a similar shape from the front as the carbon cranks. Centaur will be available in black.

Centaur brakes are forged slightly different from Record and Chorus, with exposed bolts in the center where as Rec/Cho are hidden bolt forged. they're still nice and round but with hollows in the arms. As has been said above, similar in idea to ZG, only a lot prettier, as would be expected from Campy.

Most of the other changes are minor, however I have one change to make to my previous statements, Chorus will be going to the shifter that only allows 1 gear change at a time when going to smaller cogs. Record will remain the only one allowing you to dump as many gears as your thumb will allow. However, the shifting action on the thumb lever of the lower units is EXTREMELY shorts and VERY easy so tapping the lever multiple times for shifts will not be a problem. This new system also lightens up the levers pretty well and will make for an interesting dilemma when choosing shifters for a piece by piece build.

US delivery on the higher end parts will be late, Chorus and Record probably won't see light of day here prior to October. Bianchi will be delivery bikes with Mirage 10 at the end of this month for most markets, probably June/July in the states. These are the bikes that have been photographed and going around on WW forums.

More info as I get it.
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Postby pk0r » Thu May 11, 2006 1:56 am

TOP Nex!! :thumbUp: :applause:
Great info - thanks a lot!!
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Postby Ripley451 » Thu May 11, 2006 2:00 am

:thanx:
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Postby Mike » Thu May 11, 2006 2:11 am

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Thanks for the very interesting news.
I can hardly wait to see these new things.
I was just getting ready to upgrade my chorus levers & rear deraileur to Record but will wait for these.
The brakes & crank also sound super. I have been hoping for a crank that was better than FSA & Stronglight but easier to get & hopefully cheaper than Clavicula
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Postby quick_step » Thu May 11, 2006 2:12 am

I have put some money away for this moment,I have never had record (just got 05 chours) can't wait thanx . :cheers:
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Postby peterpen » Thu May 11, 2006 5:00 am

NexusHeli wrote:... I unfortunately didn't have a magnet handy so I can't tell you if the spindle with alloy or something else. ...


C'mon man! Why didn't you come prepared?

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Seriously, thanks for the detailed info! A tad bittersweet, though, as my Record crank and Phil Wood Ti BB are less than six months old...
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Postby Boonen » Thu May 11, 2006 10:30 am

Thanks for the detailed info, sounds very interesting!
Did you notice if they changed anything to the derailleurs? (if they were shown at all).
The new carbon cranks sound very nice to me, looking forward to some pictures. :D
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Postby madcow » Thu May 11, 2006 3:09 pm

Thanks for the update Nex.

@Boonen, the der's are virtually unchanged.
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Postby Rich_W » Thu May 11, 2006 4:45 pm

think we'll see the new stuff on the tour bikes?
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Postby madcow » Thu May 11, 2006 4:46 pm

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Postby Mike » Thu May 11, 2006 6:15 pm

Wow that is a very interesting BB spindle solution.
I wonder are the split spindles permanently attached to the cranks then?
If so I also wonder what tool you use to install.
Just curious ;)
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Postby NexusHeli » Thu May 11, 2006 6:44 pm

madcow wrote:Image

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If someone with photoshop skills can color the cups an aluminum brushed silver and the arms a nice Campy carbon black, those images would be nearly perfect...
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Postby Gold Knight » Thu May 11, 2006 7:18 pm

OHHHHHHHHHH--I thought we were getting green carbon cranks next year!!!! It would match one of those pro teams in green!! :grin:
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Postby Knut » Thu May 11, 2006 7:58 pm

Gold Knight wrote:OHHHHHHHHHH--I thought we were getting green carbon cranks next year!!!! It would match one of those pro teams in green!! :grin:


No limegreen carbon, but I've heard that Shimano has abandoned the idea of black DA cranks in favor of red anodised... :grin:

Nex, this is great stuff - just as I was running out of stuff to upgrade... 8-)
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Postby Micky B » Fri May 12, 2006 7:23 am

If someone with photoshop skills can color the cups an aluminum brushed silver and the arms a nice Campy carbon black, those images would be nearly perfect...


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