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DIY DI2

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Re: DIY DI2

Postby GT-R » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:39 pm

Unfortunately, i'm located in Canada. I'll give it a try tomorrow. ;)
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby Yetibloke » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:07 pm

GT-R wrote:I kinda need some help! I'm trying to hook up a climbing shifter directly to the front wire but i don't where to start. The climbing shifter has 3 wires (purple, grey and yellow) and the front wire has 4 wires for each side (black, blue, green and red).


Thanks to all the geniuses here I've just wired this up as you need to do. red - yellow, black - purple, green - grey, this makes the right hand button shift the mech to the right, swap the red and black to reverse the shifting.
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby pritchet74 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:45 am

So there are 4 different threads that I could post these, but I figured this was the best one. Here is my new battery setup for my internal custom Di2.

I am still amazed at how small the batteries are. Cost for the 4 batteries and a new charger for them, shipped, was $55. Each one is 3.7V and 300mAh, so the configuration of 4 is 7.4V (just like the Shimano battery) and 600mAh (Shimano is 530mAh) 25 grams complete as shown. Adding a bit of foam and electrical tape tacked on 3g. From receiving the batteries via FedEx and having the new batteries plugged into my bike was less than 40 minutes. That was from starting the project to having it 100% complete.

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Here was the previous weight savings from taking the Shimano batteries out of the case:
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And the final configured battery from that was 55g, so the weight savings = 56g + 55g -28g = 83g saved over a stock Di2 battery setup.
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby manninen » Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:54 am

pritchet: charging LiPo without monitoring each cell?
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby pritchet74 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 3:17 pm

Each cell has a PCB already attached to it. That's how I ordered them.
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby skimons » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:44 pm

nice job. i found a 16-gr 7.4V // 300 mAh battery, also very small, but this is even better (more flexible).
where did you found this waterresistant connector?
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby pritchet74 » Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:26 pm

I believe it was purchased from Napa Auto Parts. Its a connector for a trailer hitch I think. Coloclimber is the one who actually bought it, so he can confirm where it came from.
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby coloclimber » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:58 pm

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Re: DIY DI2

Postby manninen » Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:47 pm

4 months/500km battery drained to 5volts. looks like system consumes battery a little if not use.
last saturday was riding and today there were nothing going on changing gears

voltage little as 5volts charger doesn´t even started to charge the battery, so i had to give a little push from 6volts power supply :applause:

gears have been great, not a single miss and neither chain drop
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby goodboyr » Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:08 pm

Resurrecting this thread, we've got a small problem on our Look 595 internal install. I cannot get the battery check function to work. In other words, holding a shift button down does not illuminate the battery check led on the front indicator box. Doesn't work for any shift buttons. I tried "cross connecting" another Di2 bike at the front connector to try to isolate the problem, and with the other bike connected I can get the led to light up correectly. So, I know that the front indicator box is ok. I suspect its one of my internal connections between the front connector and the rear jb. Can anyone help?
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby goodboyr » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:34 am

Ok. Problem solved. The blue wire from the FD was nicked and open. So for future reference, if the system still shifts, but the battery check doesn't light up, its the blue wire from the FD.

ps. I got hold of a System Checker and ran through all the tests, and guess what? Everything passed with flying colours. So, an open blue wire will not be detected by the System Checker!
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby Ypsylon » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:43 am

Glad you were able to solve to problem and thank you for coming back and providing the source.
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Re: DIY DI2

Postby pritchet74 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:24 am

Oh man, what a couple of days. So when I hooked up my Cateye button sets to my bike, I left the connection "box" at the end of the double wires (connected to - that's right - the 2 buttons). This connection box has (3) terminals that plug into the Cateye computer. I just soldered the (3) wires from my wiring harness (a positive wire for each button and a common ground wire). Part laziness on my part, part "I just want to get this thing wired up and start riding the bike". The whole purpose of my going over to Di2 was to quickly be able to switch between a road and a TT handlebar set. Ditching the Di2 levers for both builds put this idea at a standstill. So, the mission for the last several months has been to get some good connectors so that I could switch my handlebar sets back and forth.

A few weeks ago I purchased a few of the Di2 main cable harness extension kits - they will extend the length of the main cable that goes thru (or along) the down tube for connection to the front wiring harness. This is a 5 wire cable. Well, the goal for the TT setup was to have 4 different buttons for each derailleur, so I could have a common ground wire and a wire for each button. Sweet! And for the road setup, I wanted to get some climbing switches for the rear derailleur. Of course, the wires on my front wiring harness (left and right side) each have 4 wires - ground, 2 wires for the 2 buttons, and a blue wire that, well, I don't know what it does. So this weekend I just cut my shifter wires from the junction boxes - NO GOING BACK NOW!

After (no joking) more than 15 hours of work, my road setup is 100% complete. I have the connectors all wired up and the rear derailleur has 2 different sets of buttons. There was A LOT of agony in getting this thing finalized though - words don't explain the frustration I was faced with.

1. The Cateye wires - what I complete pain in the ass. Each wire has (2) wires inside - as you would expect. One was insulated and the other was a bare wire. So I (reasonably) assumed that the insulated wire was (+) and the bare wire was (-) for each wire. I soldered the (-) wires together and then put the (+) wires to the corresponding wires on my connectors. Nothing. Nothing at all. I tried so many configurations. Nothing. Unplug and plug in the battery - the green light comes on, so the battery was good. This went on for way too long. Then, I got out my wire cutters and disected the Cateye junction box - since I was smart enough to make a diagram as to which color wire was connected to each terminal. Absolutely NO logic to this, but the (2) bare wires were suppose to be connected, but they were to be soldered to one of the (+) wires on the harness. Then one insulated wire went to the (-) wire on the harness and the other insulated one went to the other (+) wire on the harness. This still makes absolutely no sense to me. But it works. :party:

2. My climbing buttons are the Shimano Flightdeck ones. I stripped the insulation hoping to find (3) insulated wires. So my surprise, there were (3) BARE wires. No insulation. WTF?!?!?! After a few phone calls and no answers I finally got Madcow on the phone and he explained to me that the (2) wires that were colored (one red, the other blue) had each strand of the stranded wires individually insulated. The insulation had to be burned off. Wow. Crazy. So I got out a lighter and burned away. These (3) wires connected as I expected and all was right in the world.

Then the fun part was getting everything together. And believe me, getting (2) sets of buttons that are different to splice into a set of wires at the back of the connector was a pain in the ass. Planning out the shrink-tubing for each stage was a nightmare and when I had everything done besides the last wire I realized that I hadn't pre-planned on the outer shrink-tubing correctly. This was after 6 hours (during my work day today) spent on this project. Fuck it - I broke out the electrical tape. This whole section is under the bar-tape anyways. I'll do it proper when I have the time.

Of course, the absolute best part of all this? When I was done I realized that I left my chain at home in the chain cleaner - so I couldn't even go for a ride!!!!!

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Re: DIY DI2

Postby mdeth1313 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:03 pm

pritchet74 wrote:Of course, the absolute best part of all this? When I was done I realized that I left my chain at home in the chain cleaner - so I couldn't even go for a ride!!!!!



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Re: DIY DI2

Postby pritchet74 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:06 am

Even worse is that I brought the chain and cleaner to the office and cleaned the chain, and then drove 20 min after work to my ride start point, only to realize that in my rush to get out of the office THAT I LEFT THE CHAIN AT THE OFFICE. So no ride today. SO pissed....
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