what is the best frame

[Iagomedin]

I don't know what frame to choose between these three frames

the frame three have very important for me

bb30
internal cables
headset conical

and weigh more or less the same
the first two weigh more or less 1200 gr

and the price is more or less the same all the frames

which do you think will better frame?
and why?

I can not upload photos.........

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... &mode=view
I think this is the most aerodynamic model But it is also less light more or less 1200

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... &mode=view
This is the same version but with normal seatpost more or less 1100

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... &mode=view
in two months will be on sale will be the lighter 900gr

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... &mode=view
this is the more expensive and is very light 960

[Iagomedin]

Comment??????

the first two frames are them to enlarged the step of wheel in order to use tires of 25mm

And have space if the wheel is descentra


Is also something more light just 1 kg in size 50

[Ypsylon]

I guess why nobody commented on any of these frames is that nobody here has ever seen one up close let alone ridden one.

You mention that they have tapered headtubes and bb30, which is important to you.

May I ask why? I suppose you think that it means good headtube and bottombracket stiffness. In my experience, that is not the case.

A frame with a stiff bb area is a frame with a stiff bb area, period. It doesn't matter if it has a bb30, bsa or italian bb shell, if it's well made, it's well made, if it's not well made, it's not. Pretty easy.

With cars you can look at stuff like horsepower and whatnot, but with bikes it just doesn't work that way. You can look at the geo, buy any one you like and that will fit and hope it'll have the ride charasteristics you are looking for, but you'll buy a surprise in a box, no way around it.

If you want to use 25mm tires, buy one that will allow that, if you want to travel with it, buy one without an ISP, but that's all the advice I can give, save for that if I found one on my doorstep I'd really check it out thoughroughly before building it up. If it feels overly flexy, if the fork bends, if you knock on it and it doesn't sound "right", be very careful.

[FAQinc]

My comment is that it's pretty hard to comment on something you haven't seen/heard/touched/ridden ever.

The only thing that these pictures have in common is that:
*they accept 2 wheels
*they are made of carbon(hopefully)
*they use features that some/most modern high end frames use
*they are black

I say get the black one looks pretty

[Iagomedin]

It is clear that they are not about quality or name frames


But by the Union of the tubes someone with experience could give us some comment detail that I do not see.


Any view is well coming and well accepted

Thanks.

[dkrenik]

It is clear that they are not about quality or name frames
But by the Union of the tubes someone with experience could give us some comment detail that I do not see.
Any view is well coming and well accepted

They look to me to be the inexpensive/cheap stuff you can find on ebay. If so, there probably isn't any/much difference in quality (however you would define that). Just pick the one that fits you best and that you find the most attractive.

Dave

[elviento]

They seem fairly similar and generic on the surface, but in reality it can be at one end of the spectrum (basically POS and can kill you) or the other (close to a top end frame except 100g heavier with less pretty graphics).